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 Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:16 am
Nah Mate: Communication's the name of the game, and as long as you can get your message across, the rest is just decoration. I'm just unfortunate in that my teacher in primary school was an elocution teacher: Taught us to speak, read and write as though we were little English gentlemen, a stupid idea at best, and it was a bugbear all through my teens, LOL.
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:32 pm
My problem is if I send people hear and can find me and listen in on what i am saying, so I rpefer to let others do it, who I know and have the expertise to encrypt the commo that needs to be. I tend to prefer to listen rather then transmit, there are others who are much better set up for that and they say they will keep me posted on info, but we shall see.
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:09 pm
Jon has a long mustache......
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:33 pm
good call , the above of course refers to the broadcasts by the BBC to "our friends in the occupied territories " ( the resistance ) during WW2 - now the FCC and other regulatory bodies specifically prohibit "coded " messages - as like all electronic communications - they ARE being listened to !! - (this may be being monitored as i type ) - because using some sort of code is something the PTB dint like - digital comms of course may be secure to casual eavesdroppers - but they are not secure from the intelligence services
however in a real wide spread SHTF situation - i don't think the PTB would be overly worried about Fred and Joe talking so may as well do it in plane what you DON'T want to do , is advertise you HAVE comms gear by having large masts and antenna - as there are those out there who will want it ,even if they don't have a clue how to use it so stealth is your watchword - so short to the point comms ,give little chance to direction find - if needs be move around - and never transmit at the same time each day here a selection of article on how to build "hidden " or "stealthy " antennas http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Antennas/Stealth/ hope you find these interesting - KNOWLEGE is SAFETY folks |
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:18 pm
Best to use single side band radios,,, There are CB rigs out there that have the SSB, CW, FM & AM mode capabilities. My suggestion is to have a ham in the area that has both long range and short range capabilities help with setting up a network, and BTW,, you can use HF rigs for short range communications simply by setting up NVIS antenna systems and that makes it extremely hard to direction find a station(s) because the signals are near vertical at a very high angle of transmit & approach to a receiving station. Another way to help with anti-detection is to use digital like packet which is a burst digital transmission and very quick. I've used portable packet with my Yaesu FT-817 setup in a backpack with a portable 80 meter dipole and it works great for low power on packet. Now these are just ideas for you to toss around,, They work for me, but I took the time to setup and practice and tweaked my setup till I got it to work just the way I wanted it to.
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:34 pm
 nice set up - i have the 817 too - excellent rig - everything you could want really - bit more poke may be , but then you can work the world on 5 w - AND of course in a SHTF situation - it will be unlikely that all those bloody "contesters" will be all over the bands  another point is that on low power with NVIS - you will be doubly hard to find ! _ and of course a portable battery with solar charging will keep you going - as the 817 is not as power hungry as the bigger rigs 
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:06 pm
As for Communication, who with??? there are Patriot nets on in various areas such as Mondays thru Saturdays at 2000 hrs edst on 3.860.00 LSB is the Eastern Regional Patriots Net... Then also on Saturday nights only is the Liberty Net at 2200 hrs anywhere between 3.950.00 and 3.960.00 LSB and you can also listen to them on the internet for those that don't have radios.... "http://3950.net/" all archived and also live or recorded on the left site of the web page under Liberty Net, one is from n2irj and the other is from n2sag... So there are nets going on almost every day. also how about starting your own net and set it up for just how you want it done.
Another item I would suggest,,, other uses for ham radio gear is for seeking intel of a particular area, and being ham gear has all mode capabilities and a full range of bands to monitor the possibilities are endless for scanning and monitoring is different areas. A good ham operator would have a full compliment of gear for this purpose including scanners and the antenna arrays to handle them all.... Below is a photo of one of my radio setups. You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. I stand by my Oath of Service to ABIDE by and DEFEND The CONSTITUTIONfrom ALL Enemies.
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:08 pm
Not necessarily. PSK31 data transmissions occupy a very small bandwidth and are transmitted quite quickly. It would be very hard to locate a transmitter used judiciously in this mode.
For amateur radio operators with at least a "general' license, there are regularly scheduled "traffic nets" out there, which would probably be worth joining and participating in on a regular basis. Not only do you make friends scattered over a wide area of the country, you make contacts for information. Try listening on 14.300.00 for the Maritime Mobile Service Net, or if you're in Texas or an adjoining state, try 7.290.00 for the 7290 Traffic Net and 7.285.00 for the Day Time Texas Traffic Net. Come SHTF time, it's these folks you'll be able to call for help. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:32 pm
Just my opinion.
There are a few different aspects to coms. 1 Gather info on local operations by TPTB "Authorities", mainly VHF (Scanner Freqs) to help you make decisions on your next move whether fight or flight or hunker down. 2 There are "preplanned" coms to help gather info on ones you love, usually local since they will be the ones you will have the power to help. CB, MURS, FRS & GMRS. That will help you decide if you need to run a gennie to your folk's house or meds to your brother's house or combine households to increase resources and man-power or what ever. 3 HF Real unfiltered news info particularly about your country and region and what to expect. 40, 75 and 160 meters NVIS will be useful to find out things such a troop movements or epidemic outbreaks in your region before they arrive on your doorstep. CB when conditions exist may provide regeonal OR coast to coast coms at times. Remember we are heading into the sunspot peak the next couple years. In many cases simply monitoring is all you need to do. If things are bad they will be discussing the situation plus with lack of Power or Fuel many of the unprepared "Maul-Droppers" will be off the air leaving only the people who have prepped. BTW. If you only plan on listening I think you are supposed to buy an ICOM rig (at least that's what I hear) I Can Only Monitor. 4 There will be coms to coordinate groups like survivalist groups and militias Those that are involved with those Mutual Aid Groups should already have their plans in place and be practicing setting up, using and building antennas for their band of choice. 5 Digital, this one excites me least but there will be error free text messages and even images transfered via the different digital modes. These nets will go beyond HF, VHF and UHF but will also include ad-hoc data transfer with off the shelf 802.11 gear and even thumb-drive-"Sneakernets". This is the way the world ends: Not with a bang but a whimper.
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:04 pm
I have tried on several of the other survival forums to setup a loose net schedule to connect with like minded people who are really into survival comms. Have had no replies I am on the Alaska Pacific Net at 8:30 AM every weekday, on 14.292 USB will stay on for contacts after the Net about 9 to 9:15. give it a try and see what we can do.
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