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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:53 pm
What is in your arsenal, and why? Guns, blades etc. Whatcha got?
Personally I have the Saiga 12ga. for protection/ limited hunting. Loaded with some sabot slugs you could stop a car dead in it's tracks. It is loaded w/ two 10rnd, mags, and one 4rnd. a Utg quad rail, and narly lookin muzzle break. Did have a yugo sks, w/ bayonet and grenade launcher, but was forced to return to store after hidden damage was found. And the famous ruger 10/22, for small to medium game, gotta love this gun easy to strip and clean, will shoot ANY round, thousands of mods sold for it. And .22lr is cheap and easy to stock up on and carry. Lookin to find a replacement sks soon so I can actually use my 7.62 ammo.
For knives I got a no-name $8 survival knife from harbor freight. taken it out 3 times so far and hasn't disappointed. I'm sure it isn't the best, but hell $8, Just buy 3 extra. Also planning on adding a good crossbow to the collection, good for large game, and reusable ammo, can't ask for more.

What do you guys (and girls) have, please share it and it's purpose for your arsenal...


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:10 pm
I have a pump 12 ga, an AK, an AR15, Mosin Nagant 91/30, S&W sigma 9mm, a Stevens .22lr scoped, and a .44 mag revolver and .22lr revolver. I have many more but those are my main SHTF go to guns.

I have a nice 5 inch fixed blade and a 3 inch folder. Also a 2 inch folder that is my sharpest one. I also have a 16 inch bowie that is just for fun. It weighs like 9 pounds :D . Thats just the weapons I would consider to be my first round draft picks to choose depending on the situation. I have many others to distribute to wife and family in the event.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:10 pm
My planned firearms battery and why:
(I have some of these, but by no means all. And some of them are more or less wish-for items I may never be able to afford)

Main Battle Rifle (MBR) - .308 in a folding stock PTR-91. .308 because it will do just about everything the M-16/M-4, AK-47/74, and SKS platforms in 5.56, 7.62x39, 5.45x39 will, just not quite as well for a couple of things, plus it can do things those platforms and cartridges can't. Can also hunt most North American big game, and small game with .32 ACP adapters. PTR-91 because it is somewhat cheaper than the competitors and the magazines (right now, anyway) are only $2 - $6 for good used alloy ones. Next choice is M1A, but it is more expensive all the way around. (Have)

Dual purpose shotgun - 12 gauge in Remington 11-87 26" barrel w/Poly-choke and various tactical accessories. 12 gauge because of readily available ammunition, it is most effective in most situations including hunting. 11-87 because it is semi-auto which helps reduce recoil, can use many different loads due to the gas system (26" barrels up only. Short barrels don't have the gas compensation system), and is faster on follow-up aimed shots than pumps for most people. Next choice is the same gun w/o the tactical additions. (Have)

Primary self defense handgun - .45 ACP in Glock 21SF. .45 ACP because it will get the job done quiet effectively with reliable FMJ rounds with moderate recoil in a practical size. Readily available ammunition. Glock 21SF for magazine capacity in .45 ACP and low cost. Next choice is ParaOrdnance P-14, but it is more expensive all the way around. (Have)

Secondary self defense handgun - .45 ACP in Glock 30SF. Slightly smaller package that will take 9 & 10 round magazines for better concealment plus Model 21 13-round magazines. Next Choice is ParaOrdnance P-10 Warthog, but it is more expensive all the way around. (have)

Hideout handgun - .32 ACP in Beretta Tomcat. .32 ACP because it is useable in .30 caliber rifles as a small game load with the use of chamber adapters. Minimum power for self defense in semi-auto pistols. Tomcat because of its small size, quality, and price. (Have)

Sniping/hunting gun - .30-'06 in H&R/NEF Handi-rifle single shot with Bushnell Trophy 4-12x40 scope. .30-'06 will take all but the largest most dangerous game at long range. Adequate sniping weapon at ranges up to ~600 yards. Availability of ammunition. Can use .32 ACP for small game very quietly. Handi-rifle because of its price and reliability. (Alternately a Remington 700 .30-'06 set up the same way) (Want)

Hunting shotgun - 20 gauge in H&R/NEF Pardner single shot. 20 gauge because of availability and reduced recoil. Pardner because of quality and price. (Want)

Hand-out gun - Auto Ordnance.30 Carbine in M1 Carbine. .30 Carbine because it is small and light, works in a small frame box magazine semi-auto gun, has ballistics at 200 yards slightly better than .357 Magnum at the muzzle. M1 Carbine because it is light, handy, easy to handle, and more accurate in unskilled hands than a full power handgun or rifle. Also not too expensive for the carbines, magazines, and ammunition. (Want)

Personal Defense Weapon (PDR) - PDR for primarily non-combatants. Same as the hand-out gun for all the same reasons. Small enough and light enough to keep slung when doing many tasks, unlike full power weapons. Pistols are 'handier' in that they are smaller and lighter, but inexperienced shooters seem to handle a light carbine more effectively than a pistol.

Get-home-bag/trunk gun -Again the .30 Carbine, this time with a folding stock. For most of the same reasons above. There are guns that compact as much or more than a folding stock .30 Carbine, but most have a much larger profile and the gun and ammunition are heavier and bulkier. Some that seem ideal I don't trust to be reliable. (Not a BOB or GOOD or INCH bag - they call for an MBR in my opinion)

Dangerous/large game/light anti-material rifle - .375 H&H Magnum in Remington 798 bolt action. .375 H&H magnum for availability, and proven record on big, dangerous game. Moderately effective anti-material round. Better dual purpose round than smaller rounds and the bigger magnums because of recoil, availability, and cost. Remington 798 because of price and the fact that it is repeater, which is important in big/dangerous game and anti-material use. (Want)

All gauges shotgun set - 10 gauge 3 ½", 12 gauge 3 ½", 20 gauge 3" H&R/NEF Pardner shotguns with 10 to 16, 12 to 24, 12 to 28, 20 to 32, and 20 to .410 adapters will allow the use of almost any currently available shotgun ammunition for hunting. (Want)

Long Ranger sniper/anti-material rifle - Chay-tac .408 in Chay-tac M200 .408 Chay-tac because of its effectiveness at long ranges for both anti-personnel and anti-material sniping. Chay-tac because it's about the only shoulder/bipod fired .408 Chay-tac. (This is very low priority and way out of my price range at the moment) (Want)

Scout Rifle - .350 Remington Magnum in custom lever action. Fits all of Jeff Cooper's perquisites for a scout rifle. (This would be totally custom and is very low priority and way out of my price range) (Want)

Why no .22 LR or other rimfires - Simply because they cannot be reloaded. When you're out of ammunition, you are out of ammunition. They are so common that finding one post-disaster shouldn't be much of a problem. Same with the ammunition early on, and then, when it's all gone, they aren't useable.

Black powder cartridge arms - .45-70 in Marlin 1895, .45 Colt in Ruger New Model Blackhawk Convertible, .32-20 in Ruger Blackhawk & Marlin 1894 rifle. .45-70 because it is the most plentiful of the big bore black powder cartridges is powerful enough for any American big game at short ranges. Marlin because of quality. .45 Colt because it is the most common powerful black powder hand gun cartridge easily available. Ruger for the same reason as the Marlin. .32-20 because it is a better small game cartridge than the .45-70 or .45 Colt, and available in Ruger and Marlin firearms. (Want)

Blackpowder muzzle loaders - .50 caliber in Traditions Extreme hunter flintlock rifle, .50 caliber in Traditions Trapper flintlock handgun, Pedersoli .32 flintlock rifle, Mortirmer Standard 12 gauge flintlock shotgun. Flintlock because black powder, including ffff for priming, can be made, and bullets cast from scrap lead. .50 caliber rifle and pistol for bullet interchangeability. Traditions brand for availability, quality, and cost. .32 for small game, Pedersoli for availability, price, and quality. 12 gauge for maximum power, Mortirmer for availability, price, and quality. (Want)

Edged weapons:

Ontario Knife OKC-3S bayonet (for PTR-91 & Remington 11-87)(Yes, they will fit with the adapters I have) (Have)
Cold Steel Oda field knife (Have 2)
Cold Steel Rifleman's tomahawk (Have)
Cold Steel 24" Latin machete (Have)
Cold Steel 1860 heavy cavalry saber (want)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:44 pm
UaskWhyIsayWhynot; You will find this topic covered extensively on this and other sites...
I'm a 12guage (870) guy, 10/22 and Glock 17 as well. I am giving some thought to stocking up on Hipoint 9mm for hand out security and either Hi Point 995 or Kel Tec sub 2000 in Glock 17 grip.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:34 am
G'day Mate
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When in doubt, apply rule ·223 or ·308 -- unless you have a more preferred calibre.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:30 am
Dochudson: My personal advice from experience would be STRONGLY against a hi-point anything. In my several experiences with them, I have seen sub-par accuracy in all, and poor reliability in most. They seem to be more ammo-sensitive than any handgun I have used. If you want a budget pistol, SCCY(little known), Kel-Tec, or Rossi/Taurus are all well worth the extra coin. My cheap Rossi is on par or above any revolver I have ever held, used or owned. Just my opinion. Regarding the question at hand, it is not always wise to broadcast such information.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:34 am
G'day Mate
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When in doubt, apply rule ·223 or ·308 -- unless you have a more preferred calibre.


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