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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:51 am
I understand what you are saying. However, in the Chicago case, the defence for that and the pursuit of the legalities were done for FREE. The guy did not have to pay because people had been watching for this and jumped in to help, if he had, it wouldn't have gotten anywhere. What I'm saying is that because our legal system has gotten so expensive to navigate for the average person, most will just give in.
It's not right or fair, but that's the way it is. The next step will be open bribery like in second and third world countries. Something to be aware of and worry about! :shock:
Most people can mount a minor protest, but it rarely does any good these days. You happen to live in an area where a protest by letters to the editor, letters to your local reps, and a visit to the court representing yourself, might actually work. BUT on the flip side, with so few people in your area, you will be known to the local cops and state police and will be a target for them to legally harass. I have friends still up there in LE and Corrections, and I know that you will be talked about and when possible, harassed. "That guy is out to get us" type of mentality...which is fair, since you would be thinking "those guys are out to get me". lol Life in small towns is wonderful, but everything has a flip side.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:15 am
Growing up way back when, we used to hop the border all the time on our sleds. The drinking age was lower in CA then. The funny part would be to watch them try and catch some crazed teenagers on sleds who have no fear. I think back about the speeds we pulled off and you couldn't pay me to do it now, bones take way longer to heal and body parts don't grow back anymore :D I could cite many thousands of miles you could cross without any interference as long as you were traveling via sled, ATV or on foot, I'm sure you Mr.Bruce could also do so considering what some of the northern back country of NH is like.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:37 pm
Herbal:
On this point I will have to agree AND disagree with you. Yes, it is possible that if you stand up to illegalities or mistreatment or unconstitutional practices you MIGHT be"targeted" by law enforcement etc. That in and of itself should give anyone pause to think. A rogue LEO or polititian who gets the spotlight on the them will start to think hard about their practices. As for any of their compadres who stick up for any of the above practices are just as bad in my bock. Understanding our people who where badges or get elected to officer both did the same thing, THEY BOTH VOLUNTEERED for the job AND THEY BOTH SWORE AN OATH. I'm not saying those activities are as rampant as they are in poitics, but they do happen.
Getting back on point though, I'll be searching for this mysterious power that has been beeing used by the FEDS. I want to see it in black and white. No memo, no post order, no "they said so"; just an authority granted by Congress.Thats what I want to see. I'm not LEO bashing, but these activities are directed by somebody or some agency.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p53ky3RIjfU
The link above shows what happens when somebody wants to make a complaint on an LEO. This is one incendent and I AM NOT implying it is widespread.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:44 pm
Mr Bruce - just research the Patriot Act in it's entire length. It seems harmless since they are only looking for "bad guys" right? It has all kinds of interesting things in it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:06 pm
Herbal:
I have read it. I will read it more detail. I just came across a snippet that this kind of checkpoint was conducted in New Hampshire as well. The part about only looking for badguys would be a hoot if it wasn't so real.lol :D
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:30 pm
I've always found that the northern border is better attended than the southern border...never could figure that out. :D
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:53 pm
Since the Canadian gun laws are so strict they must be worried about a couple of them sneaking over with a 12 pack of Labatts and their golf clubs. You know how dangerous golf clubs are in the hands of a drunk Canadian :hb:

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:19 pm
I live in arizona about 5 miles from the border and go through these check points at least 10 times a week some times even more. from here there is no way to get by them to get to tuson sometimes it can take you up to an hour just to get through them depending on the time of day.

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