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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:05 am
I already have a home, so bugging in is no problem, but what about bugging out?
Planning is a very critical element.
What to expect? Well of course the unexpected!
Got your bags packed? Ya might look it over and rethink your items.
I'm not going to discuss caches, only the items that one might carry.
The main load will be carried in the back pack.
Essential items and on hand items should be carried in a vest of some fashion.
So how did I plan?
I created a dream sheet.
The item I would like to create is my Vest, it is one of the most important items you have! So why is the vest so important? Because it should contain the needed and necessary items for basic survival. With a well prepared vest one could be able to survive for up to 2 weeks.
There are many styles to choose from, my choice, Molle vest with attachment for web belt.
Web belt has so many uses, one use that comes to mind is the ability to attach additional items to it.
Molle Vest, totally customizable, ya can even change your configuration within minutes.
Next, what to put in it? Most fill it with bullets and grenades and stuff, cool I guess. But if ya bug out I would tend to be of the mindset the key element would be not being seen and simple survival.
So this is where the planning and the dream sheet come in, what items will be in your vest?
I have a tarp, fire starter, tout line (fishing) items, canteens and e-tool. Of course I have the pouches for ammo.
So I have:
Shelter
Fire
Water
foraging items
e-tool
Ammo
What about food items? Nope thats what pockets are for.
I recently even found a nifty bottle carrier, suggestion put your water filter in it.
Additional suggested item might be early warning devices.
So why am I placing so much thought into a vest? Simple its attached to you!
Think of it like this, ya hump for given amount of miles your shoulders are hurting ya dump the ruck, then wham SHTF. You react, uhh ohh, ya just lost your ruck. don't be scared you can make it to your cache because you prepared for the unexpected and you still have your survival vest!
Suggested dream sheet items,
Shelter, tarp nylon light weight and small
Fire starter, magnesium
Water, canteens (2) and canteen cups, I use the US Military style.
foraging items, I have fishing stuff and no not fishing poles
e-tool, very important item
Ammo, 210+
P38 military can opener
Sewing kit, basic

So lets get together here and create a tool that will be useful in a run situation.
Ideas, questions, comments?
What ya got?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:18 am
Thanks for the post,Lumpy.
It has given me a place to start.
I didn't see a first aid kit in your vest. Do you keep that in the pack then?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:25 am
I forgot the first aid kit, good looking out.
Mine is a simple dressing and cravat, sewing kit also has first aid potential.
The cravat has many uses:
Covering face for the occasional dust storm
Can be used to secure your injured wings
Tourniquet
Securing splints
Wadded up and applied over wound and dressing to apply more pressure to assist in stopping bleeding.
Ya can add simple items from there, disinfectant wipes and such, but remember keep it simple.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:11 pm
For your survival first aid kit I would suggest that you have tampons, pads and ductape.

The tampons and pads are first of all clean and great at soaking up blood. Any holes you get in you like gun shot, stuff in a tampon to stop the bleeding, you can remove it later with the handly string. Cuts can be handled by taping the edges together then slapping on a pad.

Rambo might have sewn his cut together but in the real world, even in a hospital, the cut is closed with tape or adhesive strips to let it drain. If it is closed tight then puss and infection can grow with out you knowing about it. You also do not want to do more damage to the area by sticking it with needles and causing more sites for infection.

Washing the site in salt and water will also help. I suggest salt because if you don't get hurt you can put it on your food. You might had heard of the saying "rubing salt in your wounds" that was what a friend would do after you were hurt to prevent infection in the old days. Some antibiotics might be handy also.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:31 pm
for my vest i used a surplus SKS web gear i got for 3 dollars at cheaper then dirt. i then attached pouches, knives and canteens onto the many spots. i even used the grenade holders for a shovel and flashlight. works good and is cheap.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:07 pm
:gs: Maybe I missed it, but something to boil water in, I know you said a filter but it'd be nice to be able to boil water as well, sometimes things just break or maybe some water purification tabs instead so you dont take up too much room. I have some in a fanny pack deal I have along with some of those flavored powders(the ones with vitamins in them lol) that you put in a water bottle that gets rid of the taste. Maybe a roll or two of black tape. I have one of those fanny packs with a water bottle pouch on each side I could go a week out of no sweat if I had to, you'd prob not be happy after a week, but you'd be alive lol. I want to get a vest soon, just have to find one I like.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:43 pm
put a flint and steel on a lanyard around your neck you will always have a way to make fire
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:22 pm
Lostinthemix wrote::gs: Maybe I missed it, but something to boil water in, I know you said a filter but it'd be nice to be able to boil water as well,
Lost


Today it is easy to find stainless steel sports bottles. Most any wally world or Target will have them. You can boil water in them by setting them in the embers of a camp fire.

Of course a camping pack or BOB of any kind seems unfinished without a good ole fashion army canteen cup.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:27 pm
Bring Money!

If a person is bugging out, they're likely moving to where it's better, so it's more likely less afflicted by whatever the disaster is.

My bug out plan involves suitcases and lugage in case there's a regional only problem. Otherwise, I'm in one of the safest places already.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:29 pm
Lostinthemix wrote::gs: Maybe I missed it, but something to boil water in


I edited and added canteen cups, good looking out.
I was a little delayed lol.
I prefer the Military style canteens they have the neat carrier the canteen and the cups all in one convenient relocatable package.
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op·press -1 a archaic : suppress b : to crush or burden by abuse of power or authority
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Tribulation - distress or suffering resulting from oppression or persecution
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ser-vi-tude 1 : a condition in which one lacks liberty especially to determine one's course of action or way of life
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