Ideas for 'bugging'
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We have your co-ordinates entered, Dennis.
When in doubt, apply rule ·223 or ·308 -- unless you have a more preferred calibre.
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Bid: I'd forward you a link of google earth, but we're usually overcast and all you can see is clouds.
But I've told you folks if you show up, the beers are in the blue cooler on the front porch. If you want something a little stronger, you can see the bar table from the front door. We're getting sort of uptown here, only the last 3/4 mile the road is unpaved. .......................................Dennis................. |
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Has anyone that plans on bugging in marked out where all water locations/fishing , fuel possibilities, wild eatable vegetation, etc.. like on a map or anything of that nature yet? Click Here For Google Search Of SHTFM.COM
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thats a really good idea. on the list.
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I just hope that any nearby preppers haven't listed my property as a source of some of those things.
(Not that they'd be aware of my preps. Just hope the girls at the checkout of the local supermarket haven't been paying too much attention to my bulk purchases.) Good point though. Know where all the local stuff is, but I'll have to check out the same things around the BOL. When in doubt, apply rule ·223 or ·308 -- unless you have a more preferred calibre.
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I'll probably be Bugging Out. I'm not sure where to quite yet, but I hear Ohio is nice.
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[quote="buffalo"][quote]To BI or not to BI, that is the question"
Bugging In: Pros: 1. You know the area. 2. Its easy to prepare since that is where you are located. 3. Its easy to protect supplies since you are there. 4. Its easy to get there, since you are there already. Cons: 1. It may be a little populated. (City or urban area) 2. Its hard to live around supplies everyday. 3. Your wife and kids may eat the supplies as snacks. 4. Its hard to install wells and windmills and solar panels without notice. 5. Neighbors may come knocking WSHTF.[/quote] I would chose to bug in, at my age 68 and over 40 yrs here, I'm not about to leave, althou my age wouldn't be a factor, i can still snake logs with a team, carry 80 pound sacks of concrete,cut and split wood, service all the vechiles and do the brake jobs.about the only crises that could stir things up here would be a full blown depression with no oil,gas.. We don't have to worry about earthquakes, tornadoes ,hurricanes,typhoons, poison snakes,alligators,scorpions, or anything else that other parts of the country do, it does get cold here and snows but we just put another log on the fire, eventually it'll warm up and the snow will melt(we hope). any of the above could happen, but not likely, there are rattlers and copperheads in all dirrections from us, but at least 8 miles away. one thing that i've never seen mentioned is in a bug in situation, a person should have an outside toilet inside because water could be a real problem for flushing toilets after a week. there is a creek across the rd from my house and a spring that runs out of the hill 50 ft in back of my house, but we may not be able to get to the water. my wife thinks i'm nuts but i've talked about putting one in a corner of the basement, like the porta-potties you rent only homemade out of wood so it could be broke down and the waist took out when the coast is clear, have the waist drop into a wood box on skids so it could be slid to the door and outside, dumped in a hole, covered and the box brought back in. even a dozen USG buckets with tight lids would be ok. keep a few hundred pounds of lime by the potty so when it is used, a cup full of lime can be tossed on the waist, helps keep the stink down, plus an 1-1/2 pvc leading to the outside from the potty. i think a person should be prepared to stay inside at least 21 days.[/quote] May I suggest a composting toilet. They are easy to install, can be ventilated to the outside and the compost can be used on the garden or yard. They aren't too expensive but is an option. Regards, Bill |
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Good idea Bill.
I did not mention it since I have an alternative water source to keep the toilets flushing and I am on a septic system, so no fears there. But I do have a portapotty from my camping stuff. |
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Depends on the situation if possible bug in my Mom is 82 years old and has had a massive stroke so bugging out is not my first choice.
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Like most of you, I have given the question of bugging out or in considerable thought. With the exception of those fortunate enough to have secure places in secluded areas, the answer for most of us is probably less clear and unique to the variables of our individual lives.
After careful consideration and in line with my unique circumstances, I have decided to initially bug in. I live in a small suburb of 35,000 that consistently places in the top 10 of Money Magazine's "Best Places to Live" (not that that in and of itself matters, but it gives an idea of demographics and low rental-to-homeowner rates). The town is not directly connected to any other towns and is fifteen miles from the nearest interstate. I happen to live five minutes from a lake used for municipal drinking water and am surrounded by Kudzu (which is edible), squirrels, deer, etc. I have a monolith water filter (in fact, I have operated water treatment facilities) and many sterilized #1 PET bottles for SODIS. The availability of water alone makes bugging in appealing. There is also an ample supply of wood for fires. We happen to have a basement wherein we have hidden a good sized stash of food behind wallboard on one of the walls. As we are thirty minutes from Atlanta, however, I foresee the possibility of roaming gangs coming from there. We have spent considerable money on arms and ammunition and possess two Remmy 870 12 gauges in homemade "riot" configuration, a SKS, three Springfield XD 9mm, three Hi-point 995 9mm carbines and a bunch of varmint guns -- all with a solid amount of ammo. However, as there are but three of us (wife, son, myself), I do not foresee us viably fighting off gangs. As has been noted by many, defending a static position never works. But what if we don't defend it, but rather appear to be as bad off as everybody else -- eating Kudzu and drinking water from the lake shouldn't incite too much notice, as anybody would be able to do the same. Our stash of preps would remain hidden and discretely used. Perhaps if a gang or even locals want to take a look in the house, we bug out the back into the woods and let them poke around. Perhaps if the place looks exactly like the other homes they've searched and found nothing in, they will move on. After the herd has thinned, so to speak, we can then assess whether or not it is wise to consider a move to a more remote location. Have any of you considered this sort of "hide in plain sight" approach? Regards |
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