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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:13 pm
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/06/new-bill-known-as-enemy-expatriation-act-would-allow-government-to-strip-citizenship-without-conviction/

New Bill Known As Enemy Expatriation Act Would Allow Government To Strip Citizenship Without Conviction


First, Congress considered the National Defense Authorization Act, sections of which gave the President the authority to use the military to arrest and indefinitely detain Americans without trial or charge. The language was revised because of strong condemnation from the American people. But now a new bill has emerged that poses yet another threat to the American citizenry.

Congress is considering HR 3166 and S. 1698 also known as the Enemy Expatriation Act, sponsored by Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Charles Dent (R-PA). This bill would give the US government the power to strip Americans of their citizenship without being convicted of being “hostile” against the United States. In other words, you can be stripped of your nationality for “engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States.” Legally, the term “hostilities” means any conflict subject to the laws of war but considering the fact that the War on Terror is a little ambiguous and encompassing, any action could be labeled as supporting terrorism. Since the Occupy movement began, conservatives have been trying to paint the protesters as terrorists.
The new law would change a part of US Code 1481 which can be read in full here. Compare 3166 to 1481 and the change is small. The new section makes no reference to being convicted as it does in section (7). So even though the language of the NDAA has been revised to exclude American citizens, the US government merely has to strip Americans of their citizenship and the NDAA will apply. And they will be able to do so without convicting the accused in a court of law.

I hope I’m wrong, but it sounds to me like this is a loophole for indefinitely detaining Americans. Once again, you just have to be accused of supporting hostilities which could be defined any way the government sees fit. Then the government can strip your citizenship and apply the indefinite detention section of the NDAA without the benefit of a trial. This certainly must be questioned by American citizens. The way these defense obsessed Republicans think, our rights are always in danger of being taken away.

To read the full text of the bill, go here. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h112-3166


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:22 pm
So, it is conceivable that a person could become a "Man Without a Country"!!!

Great!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:30 pm
Just when you thought it was only in the Movies!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:32 pm
Just my random thought, but what if we use the same logic as 'citizen's arrest' to this mess. I, personally don't believe that the President (or anyone else) should be granted authority in this area unless it also applies to all citizens. Therefore, if indeed citizenship can be removed without legal recourse for engaging in 'hostile acts', then acts against the Constitution ought to qualify for such removal. Do you see where this is going? It should be obvious that the current Criminal in Chief and many in leadership should have their citizenship stripped immediately and shipped out to their country of choice. I'll donate toward the one way tickets.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:51 pm
Ya, I have been following this bill this week also.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:28 pm
How many more lines will we draw? just saying, but it's wearing thin at my house...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:46 pm
The Enemy Expatriation Act, no different than the Nazi Nuremberg Laws (H.R. 3166; S. 1698)

http://uswgo.com/the-enemy-expatriation-act-no-different-then-the-nazi-nuremberg-laws-h.r.-3166-s.-1698.htm

The Enemy Expatriation Act (H.R. 3166; S. 1698), an act that the U.S. Congress is now considering, that will allow the U.S. Government to take away citizenship of anybody that is considered a hostile enemy or supporting hostility towards the U.S. Government, is similar to the Nazi Factions Nuremberg laws where Adolf Hitler took away Germans citizenship based on race, bloodtypes, and those against the Hitler regime.

“If the Enemy Expatriation Act passes in its current form, the legislation will let the government strike away citizenship for anyone engaged in hostilities, or supporting hostilities, against the United States” in a news article by RussiaToday News.

The United States Government is actively passing laws mirroring the Nazi regime before they started killing anybody who was Jewish, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Politically against the Nazis or even Hitler himself, and attacked those that helped Jews and other political fugitives escape or hide in Nazi Germany.

Chuck Baldwin posted on Infowars that the “Congress is considering HR 3166 and S. 1698 also known as the Enemy Expatriation Act, sponsored by Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Charles Dent (R-PA). This bill would give the US government the power to strip Americans of their citizenship without being convicted of being ‘hostile’ against the United States. In other words, you can be stripped of your nationality for ‘engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States.’ Legally, the term ‘hostilities’ means any conflict subject to the laws of war but considering the fact that the War on Terror is a little ambiguous and encompassing, any action could be labeled as supporting terrorism.”

The Nuremberg Laws were established in 1935 were antisemitic laws in Nazi Germany introduced at the annual Nuremberg Rally of the Nazi Party. Despite whether you are pro semitic or antisemitic, it is a very good idea to pay attention to the passing of the Enemy Expatriation Act, because Hitler first passed laws to get rid of certain Germans citizenship due to certain races and those against Hitler’s eugenics philosophies, right before he sent them to the Concentration camps aka death camps since the laws took away their citizenship.

So all the U.S. Pentagon, Northcom, the White House, the Capitol, or any agency in the U.S. government has to do is put out propaganda against certain races (bloodtypes), political groups, religions, and individual beliefs and any U.S. citizen that meets the attack propaganda quotas will instantly lose their citizenship, be secret arrested and detained without a court trial under the NDAA, and then sent to death camps to be exterminated.

Your probably wondering why U.S. citizens that lose their citizenship will be exterminated by their Government? Because as hundreds of natural born U.S. Citizens lose their citizenship in America and in the event no country will accept deportation of U.S. Citizens, the U.S. government will encourage death since there will be no way the taxpayers would want to pay loads of tax payers money to pay for hundreds of thousands of U.S. citizens given illegal status and lose their citizenship status plus having no country to be deported to.

This will pave the way for the death camps in America to kill those that lose their U.S. citizenship to keep the budget deficit good, and also in cases where no foreign country will grant deporting Americans that lost their citizenship status to their country.

The Enemy Expatriation Act is no different then the Nuremberg laws because they both took away natural citizenship of citizens due to meeting certain racial and political criteria that was considered a threat to the Nazi regime or in this case the establishment in America.

The suspension of rights and then citizenship is what happened in Nazi Germany. Be aware this is now happening here in the good ole United States.


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