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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:03 am
When gardening, a good thing to think about is the water that will be needed in a SHTF scenario.
Unless you have an endless supply of water, (like I mentioned in another post, a well with a hand pump or some other supply) you will have to take into consideration how much water you will need to keep up a garden.

One would be wise to research which plants grow best with the least amount of water and the ones that will grow back without much effort.

I am not a gardener so I have very little knowledge on the subject, but I do know that when SHTF water will be scarce in most cases.

We have a few things growing that we have planted and they do not require any watering except what comes from the natural course of rain. I know this because I thought they had gone away and died, just to see them sprout up again the next year without any care.

I have decided to add to my research and notebook on foods, "foods that will grow with very little care and make sure they are good for my area".


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:44 pm
I have considered this and once the loggers leave our forest I'm going to put 2-5gla cisterns into the creek which is 100yds from my house. I found a couple nice hiding places that don't freeze in winter .

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:16 pm
hopefully no one dams up that stream and you will have a good water source.

I imagine that people could get very greedy and damn up a stream to keep all or most water for themselves.

My father made a pond that led off of our stream that went through our property. We had an abundant supply of beautify rainbow trout in there (we lived down stream from a fish hatchery) and he used it to irrigate our gardens with.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:46 pm
The stream starts in Nat'l Forest at about 10,500', never crosses private land (I've been to the source checking for contaminants and the lakes are spring fed) and runs underground for a couple of miles. For someone to dam it or divert it would mean they'd have to get heavy equipment into places where it's impossible to get an ATV so I'm not that worried about it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:19 pm
we have two streams and a shallow poond that one stream runs into. We also have several other streams and a large pond less than a half mile away. We have also put up a gutter system and have collection barrels for when we need it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:56 pm
Fish?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:30 pm
a77ssi, herbalpagan
excellent, you are some of the lucky (or smart enough to plan for that) ones!

A good source of water is crucial!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:15 am
I stored all my preps in totes..Since I have more space now and 2 sets of kitchen cupboards(in the new house) and lots of spots to put preps(was in a apt before the house)..I am going to use the totes to catch rain water...the lids can go back on them once they are filled

I am starting to fill my 2 litre pop bottles for drinking water, once I get more organized... :roll:

also I am surrinded by lakes up here...If I really has to I would have to walk with carts to get the water we needed daily...

in the winter time we get plenty of snow...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:05 am
A person will need a little less than a gallon per day. (some people say a gallon some say 1/2 gallon)

lets just be conservative and say 1 quart. That is only for drinking purposes and for a person who is not very active. Not for use of anything else like food prep, sanitation, pets, animals, plants.

1 month-1 person- 7 1/2 gallons (drinking only)

For normal uses such as drinking, sanitation (cleaning yourself) and food prep the recommendation is 1 gallon

1 month-1 person- 30 gallons again, that does not include any animals, plants etc.

If you have enough rain, rain barrels are good
If it is safe to travel, the closest pond or lake is good
if you have plenty of storage room, bottling up bunches of it is good (especially if the disaster only lasts for a short period of time)
I think the best scenario is a well with a hand pump. If it could be an unsafe situation, having a well displayed to all thieves and scroungers, I would suggest disguising it somehow

Very best situation - may be what a77ssii has

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:47 am
Add to that I have 2 Tomato plants, 2 Pepper plants, 6 Radishes and 6 Beets growing in boxes in my dining room. Between them all they drink about 1/2 gal a day and that's with the ambient air temp around 65 which is a normal day for July up here. If your in a hotter climate where evaporation will be quicker then your gonna need more.

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