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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:55 pm
simonp wrote:Although I'm new to this site, I've been a prepper for years now. I'm concerned about the attitude of a lot of Americans I've read and spoken to who think that when SHTF all they have to do is skip the country with a bit of PM and they'll be OK. A few thoughts from Australia, mentioned by many as a potential destination:
1. You may not be welcome. America is seen as the architect of the 1930's depression and a major player in this next one coming.
2. Your qualifications may not be recognised. When I worked as a surgeon in the US in the 90's, I had to sit 8 medical examinations despite the fact that I'd practiced as a doctor for over 15 years. I also had to sit an English test despite English being my mother tongue. Your destination country, unless it's a developing nation, is likely to require the same of you. We have plenty of overseas-qualified engineers who survive only by driving taxi's.
3. If you leave your emigration to after the SHTF, expect to spend a few years in a refugee detention centre. Most nations have plenty of genuine refugees fleeing real persecution, who are likely, regardless of their skin colour, to get preference over quitters who are fleeing a mess of their own making.
4. The American brand is pretty "on the nose" right now, and most people don't want to be talked down to - be prepared to bring a good dose of humble pie with you!

Thank you for your opinion, But when I are my friends and family say Bug Out we mean
leave a non-defensible location like Waco for one that we can defend . We are all either retired military or Ex-military, the short of it is THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND WE'RE NOT LEAVING HER. We Swore an Oath to Defend Her to the Death.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:41 pm
I think you have it wrong... bugging out does not mean leaving our country, it means getting out of the city that we are currently living in and moving to a place we have chosen that we know we can survive in. I have no intention of leaving my country no matter how bad it gets, I am bugging out but surely not to some other country, this is my home and will always be.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:12 pm
Bugging out if possible, bugging in if not. Prep'd in both places.

Adding 1 inner tube, flat, and smallest bicycle pump available. Gotta cross 2 rivers.

Honest feeling. We will be forced to fight by way of roadblocks or gangs to get to where we want to be when shtf.

Big Bro aint gonna let us do shtuff if its economiclly related. They will have heads up on us way in advance, and have major plans ahead of time. Inner tube.

If its naturally triggered, game on. We will survive.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:44 am
It seems to me that there are three concepts and so there should be three definitions there for... If you are staying put, in America and in your present residence you are Bugging In. If you are staying in America but going to some other location where you have preps stashed you are Bugging Out. If on the other hand your plans are to leave America you aren't bugging anywhere you are Running Like A Scared Rabbit. JMHO :USA:
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:43 am
I am staying put. Bugging in or close. We plan to stand our ground. :USA:

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