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Should the color of your BOB match your socks or your shirt? (Just kidding...)
I've been told that solid black shows up clearly on Gen 3 night vision gear. Does anyone know if that's true? What about other solid colors?
Most of my stuff is digital camo these days, but I was looking at a pack for a permanent BOB and wonder what color or camo would be the best from the perspective of concealment. I live in a rural area, so some of the woodland camos would also seem to be a good option. But I'd like something I can cache if needed without having to worry about it being easily visible.
I was also thinking that if I wanted to change that around to where it was clearly visible, that's easy to do with something like an orange trash bag I could keep in the BOB. That would give me a "visual tether" if I wanted to leave it someplace I felt was safe but wanted to make sure I could easily find it later.
Thoughts?
Max
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Color & Camo Question
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 Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:14 am
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:18 pm
Black is clearly visible under night vision, it looks too black so it doesn't blend in with the night. I'd go with a solid earth tone for the bob.
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:54 pm
OK, lets think a little about this situation.
The world has gone to sh!t and there is Matial Law or no law. What do you want to look like? Some people think they want to gear up with all their military surplus clothes and gear. I'm thinking that would attract all kinds of attention from the the Police and Military. I'm anticipating being a refugee after my neighborhood is destroyed by roaming bands of innercity gangs and thugs. I want to look as inconspicuous as possible. I plan on looking as civilian as I can while actually concealing my hard hitting weapons and survival gear in civilian looking packs and bags. Now, what do I do if I actuallly escape suburbia and end up in the wilderness. I'll want some cammoflauge. Maybe this could be achieved with premade digital cammo covers or cammo bags and packs that I carried inside of the civilian packs. 
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:59 pm
???You are anticipating being a refugee???
Part of being a survivor is to not put yourself into survival situations. If I'm reading your post correctly, you really do need to "think a little about this situation" and get out of where you are now! Unless, that is, you truly believe the roaming bands of innercity gangs and thugs are going to give you a pass. But back to the OP, it really is going to depend on your location and the situation. Are you trying to blend in with the populace or the landscape? For a compromise, subdued earth-tones will allow one to remain "unremarkable" in most situations, whereas camo patterns in an urban or suburban environment tend to draw attention. BTW, solid black stands out at night even without NV equipment...it's just not natural. With NV, combloc (the real stuff) and older (80s and 90s) US woodland camo were readily visible. Failing to prepare is preparing to fail - Franklin (paraphrased)
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:45 am
Last edited by citizensoldier on Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:32 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:23 am
I prefer multi-cam for all of my gear. best out there! It is designed to blend and reflect the colors of your surroundings. I would recommend www.thepatriotstore.com for more info on camo. They also have the best damn prices I've ever seen in my life. They specialize in package deals (full uniform packages, tactical vest and gear packages, etc).
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:52 pm
Thoughts on camo.
The whole concept of camo if to blend in with your surroundings, to appear to be part of the scenery and not stand out. That will mean different clothes, make-up, etc for different situations. Moving with a group of transients, look, dress, act like one. Trying to stay hidden in the woods, use a pattern that blends you in and use foliage to break up your outline. In the desert, look like sand and rock. In snowy area, look like snow and spotted patches. There is no one camo pattern or one set of clothes that will do that for you. You will have to have more then one or be able to make camo from the things you find around you. There are some things to think about though. Shine from objects or reflections will draw the eye of an observer faster then anything else. Movement will be next to draw the eye, so move slowly, deliberately, using max concealment. Never skyline yourself, always have something behind you to help you blend in rather then be a target. Use face paint or makeup on hands and face and nap of neck to help you blend in and break up the face pattern. Break up the pattern of your body and equipment with native foliage. Best most people can do is try and learn the whys and how tos for camo and then decide what they will do to help them blend in. Pick the best type of clothing for your area, but even the best won't cover all seasons and all places, so learn how to make field expedient camo. "Tell the Truth, know the escape routes and carry extra ammunition" Georgia Mason in the novel "FEED"
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:42 pm
Most of my stuff is Real Tree hardwood camo. It fits best for my part of the country. Some of it is black, because if I had to move, I'd likely do it at night and I imagine very few of my potential threats would be sporting night vision. But for the most part, I stick to my hunting camo.
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:54 pm
For me anyhow camo is a real PITA. I need too many different patterns to blend in with the seasons up here. Winter it's white with gray/brown splashes. Spring it's desert camo with a hint of green. Fall it's Swiss camo with a hint of green and summer it's a mix of woodland and desert. There isn't on pattern that does it all at 9000'.
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:12 pm
I really think a civilian type shirt and pants in the BOB might be warranted. Johnny has a post here somewhere on the SAS, they keep a set of civies. Maybe we should do as a premiere fighting force does?
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